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Si je cuidois (pour gemir et complaindre)

Maillard, Jean

DC0904

Text

Phrase Number Measures Rhyme Phrase
1 1–4 a Si je cuidois (pour gemir, et complaindre)
2 4–9 b Faire eschauffer sa froide affection,
3 1–4 a On me voirroit pleurer, crier, et plaindre,
4 4–10 b Pour alleger ma triste affliction
5 10–13 c Tant plus je plains, plus croist ma passion
6 13–17 d Tant plus la prie (à m’aymer) moins s’enflamme
7 17–22 c O cas estrange, et de compassion,
8 22–29 d Que tant plus froide elle est, plus croist ma flamme.

Music

Observations

Phrase Measures Analyst Show details
1 1–2 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6430
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
1 1–3 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6426
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
1 2–3 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6427
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 3–4 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6431
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 4–4 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6429
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Tenorizans 2>3, no 2>1.

1 4–6 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6428
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

2>3 in tenorizans, no 2>1.

2 5–7 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6432
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 6–8 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6434
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 8–9 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6435
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 8–9 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6433
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
3 1–4 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6436
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
3 1–4 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6437
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
4 4–10 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6438
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?

Comments

Second ending.

4 4–10 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6439
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
5 10–11 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6441
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
5 10–11 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6440
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (Below)
Tenor
5 10–11 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6443
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (Below)
Tenor
5 12–13 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6444
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 13–13 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6442
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

B up 2.

6 13–15 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6448
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
6 13–15 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6445
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
6 13–15 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6446
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
6 15–16 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6447
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 15–16 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6449
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 16–17 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6450
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 17–19 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6457
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
7 17–19 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6456
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
Text Treatment
Text Declamation
7 17–22 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6454
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Final Repeat
Earlier Phrase
7
Repeat, Exact or Varied?

Comments

Entries of voices different in first ending (mm. 29-30).

7 18–19 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6452
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
7 18–20 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6451
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
7 19–22 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6461
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Final Repeat
Earlier Phrase
7
Repeat, Exact or Varied?

Comments

Extra entry in Tenor and delayed entry in Bassus (m. 29) differ from opening of phrase 7 in mm. 17-18.

7 21–22 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6459
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 21–22 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6453
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 29–30 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6460
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Bassus
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
Other Counterpoint
Stretto Fuga
7 29–30 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6455
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Bassus
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
8 22–31 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6472
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Final Repeat
Earlier Phrase
8
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
8 22–29 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6465
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Final Repeat
Earlier Phrase
8
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
8 22–24 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6462
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Representation

Comments

Change into cut circle for "que tant plus froide elle est." Mensuration change distances the woman from the lover?

8 22–24 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6466
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Dance
Text Treatment
Text Declamation
8 24–25 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6467
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Middle of phrase.

8 25–27 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6470
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Representation

Comments

Melismas in all four voices represent "croist."

8 25–27 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6468
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (Comes 2)
Contratenor
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (@5)
Bassus
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
Other Counterpoint
Invertible Counterpoint, Stretto Fuga

Comments

First note in Tenor shortened for text setting; last entrance in Countertenor delayed.

8 25–27 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6463
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
8 27–28 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6469
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 27–29 Derycz, Pierre Expand
Analysis ID
6471
Analyst
Derycz, Pierre
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 28–29 Greenberg, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6464
Analyst
Greenberg, Jamie
Book Title
Neufiesme livre contenant XXVII chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No