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Qui souhaitez avoir tout le plaisir

Certon, Pierre

DC0101

Text

Phrase Number Measures Rhyme Phrase
1 1–7 a Qui souhaitez avoir tout le plaisir
2 7–13 b Qu’un amy peult vouloir honnestement
3 1–7 a Prenez exemple à mon chaste desir
4 7–14 b Et vous mirez en mon contentement.
5 14–17 b Mais qui vouldroit audacieusement
6 17–22 c Voler au ciel ou mon amour se tient,
7 23–26 b On luy diroit aymez humainement.
8 26–34 c C’est au soleil que la lune appartient.

Music

Observations

Phrase Measures Analyst Show details
1 1–1 Freedman, Richard Expand
Analysis ID
11238
Analyst
Freedman, Richard
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 1–3 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
11
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Dactyll

Comments

This is a correction to analysis spreadsheet line 1805.

1 1–1 Freedman, Richard Expand
Analysis ID
7360
Analyst
Freedman, Richard
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 1–3 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
1
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Dactyll
1 1–3 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
5
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 1–4 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
12
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Dactyll
1 3–3 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
4
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
1 3–6 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
8
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 4–5 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
7
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 4–5 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
13
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Representation

Comments

Text representation: "plaisir" (and also "desir", in phrase 3, at the same musical moment) in a long melisma in B.

1 4–6 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
2
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 5–7 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
14
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Bassus
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
1 5–6 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
9
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Bassus
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
1 6–7 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
3
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Sense of cadence on D in measures 4-5, however no LT in Tenor, interrupted by Ct stating next line while also evading the root by going 2>3. Very weak, but still present.

1 6–7 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
10
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 6–7 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
15
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
1 6–7 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
6
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Representation

Comments

Tenor melisma on "plaisir" is the TEXT REP

2 7–8 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
16
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Tenor
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus

Comments

Also an instance of HR stagger with the T entering early

2 8–9 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
19
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
2 9–10 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
25
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 9–11 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
21
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 10–11 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
17
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (@5)
Bassus
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
Other Counterpoint
Stretto Fuga, Invertible Counterpoint
2 10–12 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
20
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Contratenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (@5)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
Other Counterpoint
Invertible Counterpoint, Stretto Fuga
2 10–11 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
24
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (@5)
Bassus
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
Other Counterpoint
Invertible Counterpoint, Stretto Fuga
2 11–12 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
22
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
2 12–13 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
18
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 12–13 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
23
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
2 12–13 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
26
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
3 1–7 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
28
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
3 1–7 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
27
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
3 1–7 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
29
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
1
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
4 7–13 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
30
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
4 7–13 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
31
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
4 9–13 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
32
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Repeat Kind
Direct Repeat
Earlier Phrase
2
Repeat, Exact or Varied?
5 13–14 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
36
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple
5 13–14 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
39
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple
Text Treatment
Text Representation

Comments

Text representation: extreme melisma in T on "audacieuse" (mm 13-16).

5 13–14 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
33
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Declamation
5 13–13 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
34
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Pause
5 15–16 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
37
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 15–16 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
35
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
5 16–17 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
38
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Overlap
6 16–17 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
40
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Overlap
6 17–19 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
45
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
6 17–19 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
41
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius

Comments

T/B have syncopation in middle (m. 18) which provides a moment of break between alternating 3/8

6 17–20 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
48
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
FI
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
6 18–22 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
49
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 19–20 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
42
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Ct/B in 3/8

6 20–22 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
43
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca

Comments

Not quite romanesca because Bass resolves up to E instead of down to A, making it a quasi deceptive Romanesca

6 21–22 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
47
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 21–22 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
50
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 21–22 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
44
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
6 21–22 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
46
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
7 23–25 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
52
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
Text Treatment
Text Declamation

Comments

Ct/B in 3/8

7 23–26 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
54
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Simple
7 23–24 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
55
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Formulas
Romanesca
7 23–23 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
51
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Pause
7 23–23 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
58
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Pause
7 23–26 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
59
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 25–26 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
60
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 25–26 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
56
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 25–26 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
57
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
7 25–26 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
53
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 26–29 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
66
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
8 26–27 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
61
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger

Comments

Tenor preceeds other voices

8 27–30 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
62
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 28–29 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
72
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
PEn
Voice Role (Dux 1)
Tenor
Voice Role (Comes 1)
Superius
Voice Role (Dux 2)
Bassus
Voice Role (@1 or @8)
Bassus
Voice Role (@5)
Superius
Voice Role (Above)
Superius
Voice Role (Below)
Bassus
8 30–31 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
67
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 30–31 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
63
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

syncopation in S/Ct gives hint of parallel 3rds

8 30–31 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
74
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 30–31 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
68
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Text Treatment
Text Overlap
8 31–34 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
73
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 31–32 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
69
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
Other Presentation Type
HR Stagger
8 32–34 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
64
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No

Comments

Measure 33 has cross relation B-flat in Bass directly below a B(natural) in Ct

8 32–33 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
70
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 33–34 Quinn, Patrick Expand
Analysis ID
65
Analyst
Quinn, Patrick
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 33–34 Apgar, Jamie Expand
Analysis ID
71
Analyst
Apgar, Jamie
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No
8 33–34 Herdman, Jessica Expand
Analysis ID
75
Analyst
Herdman, Jessica
Book Title
Premier livre contenant XXV chansons nouvelles
Is Cadence?
No